8:01:00 PM
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VADAN
MUMBAI
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NAMASTE GULZAR SAAB, WE APPLOZISE FOR
OUR LATE ENTERY. WE ARE DIRECTLY COMING FROM PRITHIVI TEATHER WHERE WE HAD
A SHOW... GULZAR SIR, WE ARE YOUNG ACTORS AND WE WANT TO ASK U THAT TO STRENGTH
OUR HINDI AND URDU VOCABULARY OR LINGUISTIC SKILL, WHAT SHOULD WE DO ??
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8:02:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Hello and Namaskar to everybody. Bandaa
haazir hai
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8:02:00 PM
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Rajendra Patel
Old Bridge, NJ,USA
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One question. Is anybody going to request
Gulzaar Sa'ab to make Pm's unreleased work available to us Panchamites?
Will it be appropriate at this session?
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8:02:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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namaskaar Gulzar ji
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8:02:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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We welcome Gulzar saheb on the chat
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8:04:00 PM
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Rajendra Patel
Old Bridge, NJ,USA
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Namaskar and Welcome Gulzarji.
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8:04:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Rajendra: There is a request made to
certain producers. The rights of his work are scattered all around Its only
Ashaji who can take an initiative to collect the scatterred songs and publish
them
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8:04:00 PM
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Jehangir Parvez
Karachi,Pakistan
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Gulzar Sahab, Adaab This is your postman
here.
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8:04:00 PM
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Ketan
Washington DC,USA
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welcome Gulzar saab
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8:05:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Gulzar saheb isase pahle ki ham aapse
kuchh poochhein, aap kuchh Pancham ke baare mein arz karna chahenge...
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8:05:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Gulzar Saheb, there has been a question
in many minds and Pancham Group about how MDs and Lyricists are selected
for a movie. Who selects them? is it the producer? or MD choosing Lyricist?
or lyricist saying i want this MD? and what happened in yours and RDB case?
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8:05:00 PM
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VADAN
MUMBAI
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WELCOME GULZAR SAHEB
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8:05:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Waiting for your letter... postman
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8:06:00 PM
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Jehangir Parvez
Karachi,Pakistan
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Gulzar Sahab Adaab, Postman from Karachi
Here!
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8:06:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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A supplementary question to Vinay : How
a song is created. Music set to lyrics or Lyrics set to music
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8:07:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay, its always the directors prerogative
but the producers' marketing views have to be considered
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8:08:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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And MDs have no say..?
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8:08:00 PM
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Jehangir Parvez
Karachi,Pakistan
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What's new? I sent you an email last
week, You must have missed it. Sultan-e-Mausiqui sends regards. What's new?
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8:09:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Pavan: its a 2 way traffic... mostly
it is written on tunes. very few situations demand the words to come first,
specially in today's style of film making. Even my first song "mora
gora ang laile" was written on tune
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8:10:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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What about 'Meter-Less' Songs
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8:10:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Please tell any one song when RD offered
you the tune and said to write words on it. Or may be more than one :)
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8:10:00 PM
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VADAN
MUMBAI
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NAMASTE GULZAR SAAB, WE APPLOZISE FOR
OUR LATE ENTERY. WE ARE DIRECTLY COMING FROM PRITHIVI TEATHER WHERE WE HAD
A SHOW... GULZAR SIR, WE ARE YOUNG ACTORS AND WE WANT TO ASK U THAT TO STRENGTH
OUR HINDI AND URDU VOCABULARY OR LINGUISTIC SKILL, WHAT SHOULD WE DO ??
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8:11:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Like 'Mera Kuchh Saaman' or 'Ek hi khwab'
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8:11:00 PM
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Ketan
Washington DC,USA
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Gulzarsaab, you wrote lyrics for "Do
Dooni Chaar" and "Angoor" both of which were based on the
same story. What if any were the differences in the two themes when it came
to writing songs, since your songs are different?
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8:11:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay: To start the film, there's always
a script between the producer and the director. everything else follows
the requirement of the script
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8:12:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Please tell any one song when RD offered
you the tune and said to write words on it. Or may be more than one :)
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8:13:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Preet from New York [Not on the Chat]
: please ask Gulzarji that whenever he comes to NewYork next, we would like
to see him. There were people I would have loved to meet atleast once in
my life, but unfortunately they are not in this world anymore. The genius...like
Madan Mohan sahib & Janaab Sahir Ludhianavi , to name a few. I pray
for long, healthy life of Gulzar sahib. I do want to fulfill my dream of
meeting him just once. Needless to say I'm a great fan of his. Pavan ji,
please forward my message to Gulzar sahib. Is there a way of writing to
him directly? Regards, Preet.
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8:13:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Pavan: There are no meter-less songs
anywhere composed. Its a mis-concept, much so associated with my songs My
songs like "mera kuch samaan' has a definite meter and scanning of
lines. The only difference is all lines are not divided in equal bars and
rhymes are purposely avoided so that they can be read like a prose and sung
like poem
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8:16:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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They were innovations by RD as we haven't
seen anything like that by others.....
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8:18:00 PM
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VADAN
MUMBAI
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DEAR GULZAR SAAB, CAN U PLEASE TELL US
ABOUT, THE GREAT SANJEEV KUMAR AND HIS REALISTIC ACTING STYLE ??
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8:18:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay: i think almost all the songs were
written on tune except very few where the words came in first for e.g.:
'Ek Hi Khwaab" in Kinaaraa.. "Mera Kuch Samaan" in Ijaazat.
There are a few more but mostly the tunes came first
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8:18:00 PM
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Rajendra Patel
Old Bridge, NJ,USA
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Gulzar ji, Can you tell us about some
so far untold but memorable moments you had with Panchamda? If not possible
in this session then can you please send us Pachamites :) a direct or indirect
email?
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8:20:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, In how many the songs from
the album 'Dil Padosi Hai' were the lyrics written first and tunes composed
later by Panchamda? Could you give us some examples?
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8:21:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vadan: Sanjeev had a rich background
of theatre behind him. We knew each other much before we came to films.
One of the earliest performances of Sanjeev which I saw and admired was
on stage playing a father in Ibson's "All My Sons". That is how
I inherited his old man's image in my films
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8:22:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ajit: I think 2 to 3 songs were written
first for e.g. the ghazal "Dil Padosi Hai" and "Raat chup
chaap chali jaati hai" and "Aankh mein nami si hai" Rest
were written on his compositions
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8:23:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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You and RD worked together for 23 movies.
some of which were directed by you. Some by others. Did you feel any difference
in your approach or any convenience when you were also the director of the
movie?
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8:24:00 PM
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Gulzar
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(Question from Yatin): Gulzaar saab,
you have written songs for both Khoobsurat.. how did you feel when you wrote
songs for Panchamda and for Jatin Lalit?
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8:26:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Yatin: While writing for Hrishida with
Pancham, itwas a very creative trip. In the first Khoobsurat, there were
take-offs like "Qaaydaa..Qaaydaa..Qaaydaa aakhir isska faayda"
songs where you can create sense out of nonsensical rhymes In the 2nd Khoobsurat,
I was not as comfortable. Selling a new expression or an image became very
difficult because of too much of intereference that I had to abandon the
film in between
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8:26:00 PM
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VADAN
MUMBAI
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Dear gulzar saab, WHAT is basic similarity
between writer and actor as far as character development is concerned ???
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8:28:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay: Certainly more convenient when
they were my own films since I was not only a director, I was the writer
too. I have to make an extra effort when it is for another director because
it is finally the director's vision the writer has to write
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8:28:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, Panchamda's compositions for
you had one of the most mind boggling Preludes and Interludes. Now, while
composing these tunes, did He always consider the picturization you had
in mind? Or did you picturize the songs based on his tunes?
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8:28:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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[Question from Yashwant Vyas- Not on
the chat] pavanji, shaayad main travel kar raha houn,chat meri kismat mei
na ho. aap please ye sawal likh len- -PRANAAM, kya koi aatmakatha poori
tarah sach likhi gayee hogi? -Kya kavi corruption kar sakata hai? agar haan
to usaki samvedana aur ek beimaan ki samvedana mein kya fark hai? Agar rachana
kisi ko behtar insaan naheen banaati ,use nirmal naheen karati to kavi se
jhootha kaun hai?. .....Baaki sawalon ke liye baaki saathi sambhalen. Kya
chat baad mein site per poori mil sakegi?. SHUBHKAAMNAYEN AUR DHANYAWAD
PAVANJI...... -yashwant. [Yashwant Vyas wrote preface for Gulzar's book
Mera Kuchh Samaan and editor of "Bosky ka Panchtantra]
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8:29:00 PM
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Jehangir Parvez
Karachi,Pakistan
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When should we expect your new film released?
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8:33:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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Namaskar Gulzarji..tell us something
special about pancham..since we all know that pancham was known more in
weternizing the songs..and even the way panham used to dress, it always
added to that flavour..but one unbelievable thing was that it was the same
man who composed a senstive song like ' kabhi kabhi sapna lagta hai' now
could u tell us something more about that part of pancham which gave us
such a memorable songs..specially with you..because somehow i couldn't figure
out how pancham himself would react after composing such tunes..
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8:33:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, your 'Gulzar Remembers Pancham'
was really a boon to us RDent panchamites since it had panchamda's voice
interspersed with some of his most beautiful compositions. Do you plan on
releasing another album on the same lines giving us some more personal glimpses
of the maestro?
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8:35:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Yashwant: Lagtaa hai aap kuch ulti karvat
utthein hain. Naaraaz lagtey hain. Aatmakathaaein sach bhi hoti hain, adh-chhupi
bhi hoti hain aur galat-bayaani se bhari bhi hoti hain Jitni tarah ke log,
utni tarah ke bayaan. Sach ki lekin kai partein hain aur kai dishaayein
hain. Yeh ho saktaa hai ki kissi ne sach kahaa ho aur aap sach naa maane
lekin main kaafi saari aatma-kathaaon ki gawaahi de saktaa hoon Jaise Maulana
azad ki aatma katha "India wins freedom" Kavi ke corrupt hone
ka khayaal aapko kahaan se aaya? Kavi ke peechhe baitha manushya be-imaan
ho sakta hai, zaroori nahin ki kavi bhi vaisa hi nikale. Corruption insaan
ki kamzori ho sakti hai.. uska dosh kavita ko mat dein
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8:36:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Jehangir: Not before next year. This
year I may be ready with the idea and the script then look for a producer.
Send me one if you have any :)
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8:38:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Would you like to work again with Jaya
ji, she has already making a comeback
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8:40:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Hrishi da bhi wapas aaye hain aur Jaya
ji bhi (Afsos Pancham Nahin hai) kya purani team fir se nahin judni chahiye?
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8:40:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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sir, Yashwant ji ko diya jawaab bahut
achchha laga.. sach ki kavi beimaan nahiN hota par atishayokti to hamesha
uski kamjori rahi hai...
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8:42:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Subhash: Pancham oopar se neeche tak
ek bajtaa hua taanpuraa thaa. Usse naaraaz to dekhaa jaa saktaa thaa lekin
udaas nahin dekha yaa bahot kam dekha. Bahot bechain , restless , impatient,
I think that's where he produced lots of sounds inside him If you look carefully,
the known instruments also do not sound the same in his orchestra. He made
lots of experiments with his sounds for e.g. in "O Maajhi Re"
in Khushboo, the 'kuk kuk' sound of chakki in the background is produced
by two soda bottles which he filled with different measurements of water
and played himself on the mike. His favourite instrument was the mouth-organ.
He was an expert player of it
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8:46:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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yes Gulzarji, I would agree with Ajit
..rephrasing your words ' pyaas to ab lagi hai...' Tell us when are going
to see another album on pancham :-)as righly poined out by one of our active
group member that Gulzar remembers Pancham' is one of the best thing ever
happened for pancham!!
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8:46:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Pavan: Yes. Judni chaahiye. Lekin puraani
team ke saath filmein puraani nahin banni chaahiyein Hrishida tab bhi hamarey
masterji they, ab bhi hain. Jaya, tab ghar ki chhoti thi, ab ghar ki badi
sayaani beti hai Team puraani hai, lekin man utney hi naye hain
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8:47:00 PM
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Ketan
Washington DC,USA
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Gulzrsaab, what made you select Madan
Mohan ji for Mausam over Pancham?
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8:47:00 PM
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Gulzar
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(Question from Yatin) You have given
the same song "Shaam se aankh name si hai" to both the composers,
Panchamda and Jagjit Singh. Is it loyal for a poet to give it to 2 or more
composers?
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8:48:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Ek lyricist aur ek poet ki rachnaon mein
compromise ki kitni Gunjaish rahti hai. Khaas kar shabdon ko jod tod ke
baithane mein . "Dil se" mein title song mein "Meethi si
mushkil hai na, piya piya, piya na piya" mein Mushkil ki jagah zahar
nahi hona chahiye tha?
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8:49:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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Good question Ketan, i was about to ask
the same :-)
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8:50:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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And why Ravi Shankar for Meera. Did you
find RD uncapable of coming up with the required kind of music?
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8:50:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Yatin: Its not a question of loyalty
or disloyalty. Many of Ghalib's ghazals have been sung by many composers.
Since he is no more, composers don't have to do the same with me. This particular
ghazal, was picked up by the composers but let me inform you that Laxmikant
Pyaarelal had also composed it for one of Mearaj's film which never got
completed. All 3 have a different rendering
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8:51:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Aankh mein kyon nami nami si rahti hai
from Khwahish Kyon sir...
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8:52:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, For us Pancam Fanatics, Panchamda
is the benchmark based on which we either like or dislike the new MD's of
this era :) All of us have a distinct liking for Jatin-lalit. In your association
with them, did you notice any similarity in their treatment of a song, their
approach etc., when compared with Panchamda? I personally found 'Main adhuri
si' from Khubsoorat very panchamish.
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8:53:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ketan: It was our producer's choice which
came with the proposal since he had taken over another producer's contract
by paying the money but the capability and prestige of Madan Mohan as a
composer was a privelege for me to work with him
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8:53:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ketan: It was our producer's choice which
came with the proposal since he had taken over another producer's contract
by paying the money but the capability and prestige of Madan Mohan as a
composer was a privelege for me to work with him
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8:53:00 PM
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Rahul
Pittsburgh,USA
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Namaste Gulzar Saab . It seems to be
that most of ur recent movies have been taking a political tone. when can
we see something purely on a social life like Namkeen, Ijaazat or even an
out and out comedy like Angoor?
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8:54:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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What about Ravi Shankar for Meera. Did
you find RD uncapable of coming up with the required kind of music?
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8:55:00 PM
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VADAN
MUMBAI
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SIR, R U HAPPY WITH TODAY'S COMMERCIAL
FILMS AND THEIR STORYLINE???
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8:58:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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sir, aapne jawab nahi diya 'Gulzar remembers
Pancham Part II' kya hum umeed karen??
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8:59:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay: Since Lataji refused to sing for
Meera, most of the music directors shunned taking up the project. LP after
signing, also left the film. I had to look for somebody who stood above
that fear. For me, it was a blessing in disguise to work with another great
maestro
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8:59:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vadan: are you? Ask no obvious questions
to get obvious answers
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8:59:00 PM
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rajesh kumar
udaipur
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hi! Gulzar Sb. we are very much crazy
of yours songs.
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9:00:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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So did RD also refuse for Meera?
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9:01:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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I just cannot believe that RD returned
the challenge if he were given that. I remember reading how sad he was to
lose Sur Sangam.
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9:02:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Subhash: It is on the program. HMV and
Sanjeev Kohli have to call the date. I wish this be done before his next
anniversary. Lot of his voice is still stored with me which I want to offer
to his fans
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9:02:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, This question might sound a
bit vague, but could you tell us something re: Panchamda's style of working?
His approach towards composing the base tune, preludes, interludes, his
choice of instruments. Things that you feel set him apart from others. Something
interesting about his persona.
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9:03:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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So RD also refused? can't believe that!
but could you predict Pancham might have composed for Meera.. I guess it
was the pancham only , who was denied for Sur-Sangam
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9:03:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Thanks a lot Gulzar Saahab. Nawaazish,
qaram, shukriya, meharbaani. We will wait for that tribute..
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9:03:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Great News for all Pancham Fans Pancham
- Gulzar remembers RD Burman is one of the best tribute album ever
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9:03:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Rahul: My dear Pancham's name sake, hopefully,
my next film should be softer in tones. Perhaps you didn't like the hard
ones. The problem for me remains to find a producer for my kind of films
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9:03:00 PM
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pranav
San Francisco,USA
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Namaste Gulzarsaab. How do you position
yourself in the current era of film music where beats and rhythm are clearly
more important than the lyrics. Given that, can you please tell us a little
about your experience with A.R.Rehman?
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9:03:00 PM
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rajesh kumar
udaipur
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YOU ARE WORKING ANY NEW album or film
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9:05:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, bahut shukriya. We will eagerly
await the release. Hum sab bhi Katra Katra apne Guru ki aawaz jama karne
mein lage hai. You've really made me happy. Thank you very much.
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9:05:00 PM
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Ketan
Washington DC,USA
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As a layman, I have been always confused
with these lines from Khamoshi. Could you explain it to me please--"Humne
dekhi hai in aakhon ki mehakti khushboo, haath se choo ke ise rishton ka
ilzaam na do"
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9:06:00 PM
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VADAN
MUMBAI
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SIR, DEAR GULZAR SAAB, NANA PATEKAR IS
ALSO HAVING THEATER BACKGROUND AS SANJEEV KUMAR, AND U HAVE WORKED WITH
BOTH. CAN U TELL US U'R EXPERIANCE WHILE WORKING WITH SHRI NANA PATEKAR
???
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9:07:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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dil ko bahut sukun mila Gulzarji..though
i don't like HMV for some obvious reasons these days, but surely for that
effort..me unke sab gunah maaf kar sakta hoon:-)
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9:07:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ajit: One important factor in his personality
was his discipline of a professional. Even in his most busy time, he had
time for all his producers. He was punctual to his music room to start work
in the morning and punctual enough to pack up in time. It was important
for him to do some cooking, it was important for him not to miss his football
matches, his parties till late in the night. A man who was alive all the
time.
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9:07:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Libaas ki kuchh ummeed?
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9:08:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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In the song "beeti na bitaai raina"
what did you really mean in one antara. Is it "chaand ki bindi waali"
or "bin - diwali" or both. The song however remains a favourite
for the line "birha ki jaai raina". what beautiful use of word
jaai(paida ki hui).
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9:08:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ajit: One important factor in his personality
was his discipline of a professional. Even in his most busy time, he had
time for all his producers. He was punctual to his music room to start work
in the morning and punctual enough to pack up in time. It was important
for him to do some cooking, it was important for him not to miss his football
matches, his parties till late in the night. A man who was alive all the
time.
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9:11:00 PM
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Pushkar sharma
bethesda,usa
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gulzar saheb, You and asha ji won the
national amard for Ijazat but pancham's name was left out. He obviously
played the pivotalrole in the sucess. what was your reaction and how did
RD take it?-Pushkar
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9:11:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ketan: Ketan, all that you see and feel
is not very physical. You can feel a fragrance of a look. It can convey
love, hatred, affection to which we all react. We don't have to give a body
of words even. That is the expression of describing a look of love in these
lines. I have expressed not to give a definition of a relationship to that
look, either.
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9:14:00 PM
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Rahul
Pittsburgh,USA
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Gulzar Saab, could u tell us something
about the great actress Meena Kumari? How was it when u were working with
her in Mere Apne, considering that it was ur first film as a director and
she was an well established star at that time?
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9:14:00 PM
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pranav
San Francisco,USA
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Namaste Gulzarsaab. How do you position
yourself in the current era of film music where beats and rhythm are clearly
more important than the lyrics. Given that, can you please tell us a little
about your experience with A.R.Rehman?
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9:15:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Sir aapke sawaal ka jawaab : "Saath
Saath Tum Chalo To Raat Raat Bhar Chalein'
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9:17:00 PM
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Gulzar
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(Qustion from Ninad) When you wrote the
songs for Satya.. there was a wide range of songs which we got to see from
you, right from "Baadaloan se kaat kaat ke" to "Goli maar
bheje mein".. how did you think of such diverse songs and how was the
experience of composing something like "Goli maar"
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9:17:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, has there been an instance
where you gave some lyrics to Panchamda and he instantly came up with the
tune, which became a big hit? I've heard some rumours and wanted to ascertain
the facts.
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9:20:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Sir, may i have the priviledge to announce
the launch of my site on Pancham at a new address.. www.panchamonline.com
Please visit..
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9:21:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, you jad once mentioned about
a comment from Panchamda which is very close to your heart about how the
singer's chehra would come in front of Him after he finished composing a
song. Any such other comments that you would like to share with us?
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9:22:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ninad: I must explain one thing to my
friends and fans, specially thjose who expect only romantic kind of songs
from me, all the time. They must know, a film has a variety of situations
and one has to compulsorily write for all the situations. Its not possible
to choose out a few and leave the others. Then, there's a fabric of every
film which differs from one to another in cultures, language and characters.
Hence there has to be different kinds of songs in different kinds of films.
The criteria is how to keep meaning and aesthetics in the worst kind of
situations. 'Goli maar bheje main" is not as nonsensical as it sounds.
There is a ring of character and his language and a meaning behind the apparently
nonsensical lines. That's where a credited lyricist like Shailendra was
a master. In a common man's language, he could bring out profound literature.
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9:22:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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All you RDent fanatics out there! You
are all welcome to the new home of Pancham da on the web - www.panchamonline.com
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9:22:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ninad: I must explain one thing to my
friends and fans, specially thjose who expect only romantic kind of songs
from me, all the time. They must know, a film has a variety of situations
and one has to compulsorily write for all the situations. Its not possible
to choose out a few and leave the others. Then, there's a fabric of every
film which differs from one to another in cultures, language and characters.
Hence there has to be different kinds of songs in different kinds of films.
The criteria is how to keep meaning and aesthetics in the worst kind of
situations. 'Goli maar bheje main" is not as nonsensical as it sounds.
There is a ring of character and his language and a meaning behind the apparently
nonsensical lines. That's where a credited lyricist like Shailendra was
a master. In a common man's language, he could bring out profound literature.
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9:23:00 PM
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Mohan
New Jersy,US
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Gulzarji, just a off-beat question can
u name you top five fav pancham scores not being written by you...just wondering
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9:23:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Yes sir. One of my favourites "Jokaron
ki naukari karega kallu"
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9:25:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Sir, why was Devdas sheleved? You were
directing the movie. Now as another Devdas is in making, we would have wished
your version coming up again. With of course RDs songs.
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9:28:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Mohan: Off-hand its not possible because
I would remember so many. for e.g. I can choose any 5 numbers from Shaktida's
film "Amar Prem".
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9:28:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ajit: for my own abhyaas, I'll choose
5 and ley you know
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9:28:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Ajit: for my own abhyaas, I'll choose
5 and let you know
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9:30:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Pancham ki kuchh aur yaadien, agar aap
share karna chahein to.....
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9:32:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay: 2 of Rd's songs were recorded
for Devdas which I do not know when and how will reach his fans. Since one
more Devdas is in the making now, I have to abandon my version atleast for
the time being. But then, it is the subject which one looks forward to be
made as authentically as possible. seems to be in the right hands. Sanjay
Bhansali is a very capable director.
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9:34:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Sanjay leela bhansali is more glossy
of course.. But the depths and the dialogues ..unka kya hoga.. wo aap hameiN
waise hi suna deiN.
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9:34:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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Gulzarji...how is this experience chatting
with panchamites on internet..though its pretty slow, do you have any email-address
,sir!
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9:34:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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What could be more exciting than a personal
e-mail from Gulzarji? Could you e-mail those 5 songs to pancham@egroups.com.
Based on your reply, I'm assuming that there are songs which Panchamda instantly
composed on your lyrics. Am I correct?
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9:34:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Pavan: Pancham har waqt yaad hai iss
liye khaas taur pe baith ke yaad karnaa mushkil kaam hai. Jaise jaise usski
baatein yaad aati rehti hain, aap logon ke saath baatataa rehtaa hoon. Majboori
hai ke ab aur gaane usske saath nahin ban sakenge. Sirf khaamoshi hai jo
kheenchti rahegi aur lambi hoti rahegi
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9:37:00 PM
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Gulzar
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(Question from Yatin) : What inspired
you to write "Jab bhi thamaa hai tera haath to yeh dekha hai, log khete
hain ki haath ki rekha hai" (Gulzaar saab replies) Rekha (Q from Yatin
contd) Humney dekha hai do takdeeron ko judte huay
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9:37:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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Sir, so disheartening to know that my
fav writer/novel which was directed by my fav director and fav MD , is coming
to trash..for God sake..pls Gulzarji don't abandon that project!!
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9:38:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Sunaai deti hai uski[Pancham ki] dhadkan.
Tumhara dil aur hamara dil hai. Pancham is still alive in his songs
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9:38:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Yatin: It was a romantic situation and
Rekha was playing the romantic girl , so the poet had the privilege of using
her name and making a pun on it
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9:38:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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Sir, another difficult task for you (pardon
me).. Please Choose the most difficult (in terms of effort) movie that you
did with Pancham, the easiest one and the most satisfying one.
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9:39:00 PM
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Pushkar sharma
bethesda,usa
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Both Ashaji and Lataji sang for you and
RD? How did u decide for which actress who will sing? or it was strictly
musical decision.
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9:41:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Subhash: I'll do my best to keep it alive
till it materialises. Thank you for your sentiments
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9:45:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Pushkar: In general its a music director's
decision. With Pancham, one could decide mutually. It was interesting that
Khushboo was completely sung by Ashaji, Libaas complete with Lataji, again
Ijaazat by Ashaji, again Maachis with Lataaji. It was a pleasure to work
with the two who landed on the moon, Lataji and Ashaji
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9:45:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Sir which work (after poetry) is the
closest to your heart. Direction/Screenplay/Dialouges/Lyricist/Story Writer?
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9:47:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, I believe you have all the
songs of 'Dil Padosi Hai' sung by Panchamda Himself. Do you have a full-blown
version of his with the music accompaniments and tracks or is it a recording
of his rehearsal? In either case, is there a way you can reach it to his
fans?
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9:47:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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i dunno Gulzarji, if we can contribure
anything from our side to keep pancham alive and of course, your work..ie
Devdas project and new pancham album.. Kahin baar bahut dukh hota hai ki
hum sirf baith kar tamasha dekh sakte hain..but believe me sir, you are
not alone in this journey, we will always be there with you..
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9:47:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay: I don't think anyone has been
easy with him. Film was just a reason to meet. The rest was living together
which couldn't be easy, really
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9:48:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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You have written a couple of Bengali
songs for a Movie called Aanando Niketan (with RD) in 91. Do you know Bengali
that well?
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9:50:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Pavan: The dearest to me remains writing
poetry and after that writing poetry again specially for children. I am
very fond of writin nonsensical rhymes for children like "Lakdi ki
kaathi" "Jungle Jungle baat chali hai " "Tap tap topi
topi tope mein jo doobe"
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9:51:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Isise juda ek sawaal : aapka bengalis
ke saath kaafi association raha hai. Hamare adhiktar male singers aur directors
and literary pesonlities Bengal se hai. Kya aapko aisa laga ki unmein music
ya literature ki pakad jyada hai
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9:51:00 PM
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Pushkar sharma
bethesda,usa
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Aaap dono mein aisi kya khaas baat the
(!) ki pancham nein apki HAR film mein innovative aur naya sa music diya.
I don't remember a RD-gulzar movie which even had above average movie. It
was GREAT always. Do sangeet mein doobe huai dil ka sangam tha.
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9:51:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Vinay: Well, yes.
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9:53:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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You have made many a Pancham Fanatics
from this group happy. one more reason to favour you :)
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9:54:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Gulzarji, I couldn't get the 'Living
together with him couldn't be easy'. Could you expand on this a little bit?
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9:57:00 PM
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Gulzar
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Pancham ke chaahne waaley doston, bahot accha lagaa aapke saath shaam
bitaakar. Pancham ke saath baithne ka ek aur bahaana mila. <br><br>
Khoon nikaley to zakhm lagti hai<br> warnaa har choat nazm lagti
hai
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9:57:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Dhanyawaad Gulzar saheb, sabhi ki or
se. Ummeed hai bhavishya mein phir mulaqaatein hongi.
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9:57:00 PM
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Vinay
jaipur
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I thank you on the behalf of all the
members of the Pancham Egroup for giving them this opportunity to have such
a wonderful time with you. A life-time experience this. Please keep visiting
our group and once in a while also post on it (pancham@egroups.com). Shukriya!!
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9:58:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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Sargam ke saathi sargam ki dhun pe gaate
chale
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9:59:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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For all Gulzar-Pancham Fans Download
Gulzar wall paper from http://domaindlx.com/gulzar/gulzar800.jpg
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10:00:00 PM
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PavanJha
Jaipur
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I would also like to thank NINAD and
YATIN the co-ordinators
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10:02:00 PM
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Subhash
Maple ,USA
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Gulzar sahib! ek ichaa the kissi din
pancham toli aapke se ruburo ho aur khoob der saari baaten karen..kah nahi
sakta ki pancham kitna adhura rahta aapke bina...jab bhi appka aur pancham
ke combination ka khayal aata hai to yaad aata hai Aandhi ka wo b/g music
jab S Sen Sanjeev K ko kahin salon baad milti hai...aur wo end part ka b/g
music jab S sen sabe wida leti hain...kya kahoon shabad nahi ha mere pass..lekin
phir bhi bahut accha laga..Hazooron Kwiysehn aesi ki har kwayish be dum
nikle bahut nikle mere armaan, phir bhi bade cum nikle
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10:03:00 PM
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Ajit Iyer
Richmond, Virginia,USA
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Thank you very much, Gulzarji for this
memorable day and to Pavan, Yatin and others who made this a grand success.
Panchamomaniac -Ajit.
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11:08:00 PM
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Abhijit Patwardhan
Mumbai
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Hello anyone there?
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(Pancham@Egroups.com).
It was an ocassion to share the memories of Pancham da with who better than
Gulzar saheb. "Gulzar ki baatein Pancham ki yaadein" as the chat was
titled, it began exactly at 8 pm when Gulzar saheb joined and the next two hours
carried the joy, the queries, the anger? (like Why
Pancham was not taken for Mausam/Meera),
the hope (releasing of undiscovered Pancham Gems), the good news (Album - Pancham
2) and the pain that Pancham is not between us. The fans also took the opportunity
to talk about Poetry, some fundamental queries of the birth of a song and lots
n lots on Gulzarish stuff. 
