Gulzar Live Chat Transcript

Date : 07.12.2002 Place : Boskyana, Mumbai

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Gulzar
Welcome to all of you... the delay is entirely unparliametary, but there are 15 of your colleagues, who delayed it.. ate less and spoke more
Kaustubh
Dubai
Hello Pavan, Hello Gulzarji ...
Madhav
Mumbai
Welcome Gulzarsaab
Jehangir
Karachi
finally welcome.
Madhav
Mumbai
The lucky 15
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
Tum aa Gaye Ho Noor Aa Gaya Hai.Welcome Gulzar Sahib.I am Zaidi From Pakistan.I love Ur Style Of Poetry.
Kaustubh
Dubai
Ha Ha I would have done the dsame thing, ate less spoke more :)
Madhav
Mumbai
I am the unlucky 1
Kaustubh
Dubai
Ha Ha I would have done the same thing, ate less spoke more :)
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
Salaam Gulzar saab
Madhav
Mumbai
So....should we start our questions?
Vinay
 
Sir, namaskaar! The delay made us (at home people) do exactly the opposite - speak less and eat more..
Kaustubh
Dubai
Hello Gulzarji..This is Kaustubh from Dubai....Its a great pleasure talking with a wonderful and great personality like you...you are one of the two of my most favourite lyricists..other being Majrooh Sahab :) First of all let me congratulate you on the Life Time Achievement Award of filmfare this year..
Gulzar
Kaustubh->Thanks for this life time compliment... I have both.. The life and a lot of time...
Kaustubh
Dubai
Yes the TIME to churn out lots of more gems for your fans like us :)
Gulzar
Its nice chatting with you all... More reactions than questions... Make me feel comfortable
Kaustubh
Dubai
Your lyrics make us more than COMFORTABLE Gulzar Sahab :)
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
I would request mr Gulzar to tell us how and when the evergreen song tere bina zindagee was recorded and what u felt about the song when u heard it first time.
Gulzar
Zaidi->My first hearing of the melody was in Bengali... Pancham was composing music for puja numbers.. I liked the tune.. and thought of baptising it in Hindi.. Thanks.. RD Agreed..
Madhav
Mumbai
Dear Gulzarsaab, Aap ne itne music directors ke saath kaam kiyaa hain. Lekin the Pancham-Gulzar magic was something else. Now, my question is- What, according to you, did you find in Panchamda, which was so distinctly different from other music directors, which created that magic? I mean strictly as a music composer, barring the fact that you had such excellent friendship!
Gulzar
Madhav->I think the understanding and sharing of the script, that was to be transferred to a film.. we shared a lot roots to do that sort of creativity... The composition was never imposed on a situation... the situations sprouted the melody..
Vinay
 
Well, nothing to take away from Kishore fans (I am also one), you promised to come up with "Gulzar remember Pancham part 2 first." How did we miss that? And is it coming?
Jehangir
Karachi
After R.D.Burman and now Kishore Kumar which would be the third one?
Gulzar
Jehangir->There are two due on me... One is Pancham part 2 and the other my humble sharing with a stalwart like Salil Choudhary
Vinay
 
Sir, can we have your reactions on "the meet" (with probably a different kind of fan group than you would normally get) and a little glimpse of what our colleagues out there talked (you can skip the eating part if you wish :)).
Gulzar
Vinay-> This group is much more focussed in its views.. they do not let the sight of RD escape with my shadow behind him
Kaustubh
Dubai
Hello Gulzarji...What are your feelings about Kishore Kumar ( KK as a person and an all rounder personality of Hindi Cinema )...How and where did you first meet him ? You have written around Any particular incident which you have to tell about him which the world does not know ?
Gulzar
Kaustubh-> I would sugget to go through the book by Nerurkar. Another suggestion.. dont borrow it.. buy it...
Madhav
Mumbai
Dear Gulzarsaab, what are your thoughts on today's so-called "Item Songs"? Does it hurt?
Gulzar
Madhav->The formula has changed.. if it hits you... its a hit...
rsinha
NJ
Gulzarji, Aap Sampooran Singhji se "Gulzar" Kaise aur kab bane?
Gulzar
rsinha-> Shayari likh ke
Kaustubh
Dubai
Does a lyricist have any expectations from the singer that he should sing in this way, he should have his pronounciation ( of Urdu for example ) in this manner...etc...and Kishore Kumar sahab kitne khare utarte the is kasauti pe ?
Gulzar
Kaustubh->Ofcourse, it is a part of the responsibility to be present at the recording and check the diction of singer.. Kishore ofcourse knew Hindi very well and would pronounce words in correct diction.. the rendering remains with the tune.
Vinay
 
Coming to my favourite "Gulzar-side", there hasn't been much from you for children recently. Are you by any chance working on something for "us" :)?
one
..
Gulzarsahib.. some say that life is a random walk of opportunities and setbacks.. In other words one can never be sure of the destination. What has been your experience?
Gulzar
one-> I'll let you when I reach the destination, I am on way
AJ
Noida
sir, which film song do you consider to be your best lyrics?
Gulzar
AJ->There are different favourites from different point of view.. but Phir se aaiyo badra.. and mera kuchh saamaan Move me every time
Amit
Calcutta
Gulzar saab, recently you worked a lot with Anu Malik which in my opinion was not the best thing to do (sorry to any AM fans present here). On one chance he also went ahead to claim that according to YOU he reminded you of R. D. Burman - that you made him sit in the place that you have kept reserved in your room for Panchamda. Speaking for myself as a die-hard fan of Panchamda and ofcourse you, this came as a real rude shock. My question is was there any amount of truth in this claim of his?
Gulzar
Amit-> You pass many a milestones in your passage.. there are eight farlongs in one mile.. you and I know where was the destination..
Shankar
Present during the chat
What is your opinion about Rafi saheb?
Gulzar
Shankar -> Rafi saheb was a complete playback singer.. He could sing for Johny Walker and for Dilip saheb and accordingly changes rendering
Madhav
Mumbai
Dear Gulzarsaab, I can see you have too many questions to answer...Lol! But I will just repeat my question, in case it slips down the scroll bar: Your films had different music directors like Madan Mohanji, Salilda, Pt.Ravishankarji, and of course, Panchamda. Was this choice dependent on the producers? And if you had a say in it, how did you decide who would do justice to the songs? Because, irrespective of the fact as to who did the music....your films always had the most melodious music scores. What was the criteria in selecting the MD?
Gulzar
Madhav-> In my own films I had two anchors that I looked for.. One Sanjeev Kumar.. the other RD Burman.. Other than this was always negotiable because of the producers choice
Kaustubh
Dubai
Gulzarji..How about some of your lyrics written in 70's & 80's, meant for certain films/Music Directors and then they are not released ? What happens to them ??
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
What aout your association with Hemant Kumar ? Apart from Pancham that you just explained you seem to have had a special tuning there.
Shashi Rao
Eagan
Gulzarji - Namaste - Good Evening - Can you tell us more on your association with NC Sippy and Hrishikesh Mukerjee - the Uttam and Rupam Chitra banners? You produced some quality work as a director, in writing lyrics, script, dialogues.
Gulzar
Dikshit and Shashi-> You have a long life.. we were just talking about the team of these three stalwarts.. Hrishida, Hemantda and NC Sippy, from where I started my career with Ashirwad [as a writer] and later as a director.. Hemant da was the first one to call me for writng after Bimalda's demise.. NC Sippy gave me the break as the director.. and Hrishida gave me films like Ashirwaad, Anand, Guddi, Bawarchi and many more which put me on the scene as a writer
rsinha
NJ
Gulzarji, Panchamda ke jo do hazaar se bhi zyaada dhune unke music bank mein hai, (aur jo sunnewalo tak pahuchi nahi hai) kya un dhoono ko aapke bolon ke saath ab bhi suna nahi ja sakta kissi tarah? Woh dhuune kiss ke paas hai ab?
Gulzar
RSinha->I am not aware of Pancham's bank account... but I know he was very rich with the music.. I know some part of his bengali compositions I wish I had a chance to write Hindi songs of that
Jehangir
Karachi
lagta haiy aaj Postman ka din nahin, itne sawaal uthaiye par koi jawaab nahin
Gulzar
Jahangir-> Afsos hai Hum La-Jawaab hain...
AJ
Noida
thanks for the answer regarding your favourite lyrics! which current music directors and singers do you see sharing the same spot light with the masters of the yesteryears, the golden period of hindi film music?
Shashi Rao
Eagan
Gulzar-ji - according to Nerurkar's book - you and Pancham had created one song for an unfinished Prasan Kapoor (Jeetendra's) movie. Was this movie in the same genre as Khusboo, Kinara, Parichay ?
Gulzar
Shashi-> Originally It was written for an other Story, which was named khushboo, finally the title remained, the story and the song changed.. The song should still be lying with Prasanna Kapoor. The song was sung by Kishore Kumar
Kaustubh
Dubai
Just curious...How was your relation ( your way of communication, your feelings about him ) with Majrooh Sahab ??
Gulzar
[Pavan] Please wait for 5 minutes before any other questions.. for old question logs...
anoop
Princeton , NJ
Gulzar Sahib ! Since you already have so many questions to answer, I won't shoot another one. This is just my humble opinion/comment . I believe 50-100 years from now if 'there is one thing to be picked' from all your work to be remmbered , it will be 'Mirza Ghalib'. You would have made a place in the history just by making 'Mirza Ghalib'
Jehangir
Karachi
Gulzarji have you ever thought about making a serial on various other great poets like Ghalib
Gulzar
Jahangir -> "Mir" remains a desire... Hazaaron khwahishen aisee ki har khwahish pe dum nikle..
Jehangir
Karachi
It is widely known that launching Tabu since Maachis she has been accepted as the future shabana azmi, which male artist do you think can be considered heading towards same path
Gulzar
Jehangir -> Tabu is not heading to adopt any other personality but herself.. in her own range she has many of the horizons beyond...
Madhav
Mumbai
As for Sanjeev Kumar, he was without doubt a fantastic actor...but you even showed the world the ACTOR hidden inside the star Jeetendra. What prompted you to cast him the very first time?
Gulzar
Madhav-> Two good reasons, one he was my neighbour and second he was capable, which I proved
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
Gulzar saab considering you had already worked in Do duni Chaar What inspired you to make Angoor ? You have made a mention of its songs in Achaanak
Gulzar
Dikshit-> I do not remember any reference to Angoor and Do dooni chaar in Achanak... Do dooni chaar was not made exactly as was written for some handicaps.. so I intended to remake it when I became a director
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
In Achaanak Vinod Khanna tells a fellow officer his wife has sent taped songs of Do Dooni Chaar whilst on parade and is punished by Iftekhar
Gulzar
Dikshit-> Sorry, the age takes its toll.. May be you are right..
Madhav
Mumbai
Dear Gulzarsaab, how is the poet Gulzarji different from the director Gulzarsaab....do you percieve both the art forms differently?
Kaustubh
Dubai
Hello again...What do you think about AMIT KUMAR - why is he not so successful as his father ?? Are you giving him a "BREAK" in your forthcomming films ?? ( Since you have seen his career right through )PLEASE........ I NEED THIS TO KNOW VERY MUCH
Shashi Rao
Eagan
Gulzar-ji - Thank you very much - Not to mention we are grateful to this same team for giving us gems like Koshish, Achaanak, Sadma, Khubsoorat - such a bouquet of varied themes, excellant acting and rich scripts. I was almost hopeful of such a team would be formed again with Mr. Pandit or Time Audio....
Gulzar
Shashi-> Mr RV Pandit was ofcourse very knowledgable producer for me.. but he has other priorities for his social works.. [Fortunate fot the society, unfortunate for me]
Shireesh
Shanghai
Gulzarji - Lyrics aur melody pe kai baar kai logon se suna ki kabhi lyrics pehle likhe jaate hain aur kabhi tune pehle compose hoti hai. Par ek sawaal interludes ke baare mein. Interludes ki variations aur duration kaise decide hoti hai? Aapki filmon mein, kis hadh tak aap music director ko khaas instructions detey thhey interludes ke liye?
Gulzar
Shireesh-> Generally, the director's have an estimate or the duration, considering the total length which they require.. I personally left it on the composer because I enjoy picturising the music parts.. [even interludes]
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
Mora Gora Ang Le Leyee.Did you saw any goree goree girl that u wrote ur first song.
Gulzar
Zaidi -> I was looking for one with Shyam [Saanwale] rang..
Shashi Rao
Eagan
Gulzar-ji - I have alway admired your song picturisation - a perfect balance between simple, natural emoting (the old classical style) and yet entertaining. But you broke all boundaries with the picturisation of "Katra Katra". Was it the song or the situation that led to the dreamy shot compositions. Did Pancham (or Madan Mohan-ji, Hemant-da) ever accompany you to the song/shoot location?
Gulzar
Shashi-> No. they didn't accompany for picturisation.. they did visit the locations even while song picturisation [Pancham specifically]...
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
Gulzar Sahib I request you to plz visit Pakistan and be my Guest.
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
Aap Pakistan Kyon nahin aate.We love u very much.Kaash aap mere guest banen phir main aap kee poetry gungunaon ke AAJ SARHAD PAAR SE KUUCH MEHMAN AAYE THE.
Gulzar
Zaidi-> Hazir hounga, Insha Allah!
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
Thanks Gulzar Sahib.I will not die unless you are here.Its a commitment not a promise.
Madhav
Mumbai
One last question, Gulzarsaab! What would you like to be remembered as- Gulzaarsaab, the film maker, or Gulzarsaab, the poet? Thanks for your time, and of course....for all those beautiful lyrics and films that you have given us!
Gulzar
Madhav-> Dont ask the difficult questions... I am father, a son, a husband, a brother, and want to be remembered with all the relationships..
raghu
minneapolis
Can you tell us when we can expect to see LIBAAS see the light of day....also how many reels of DEVDAS did you shoot before it was shelved and if it is ever possible to see the rushes of the same....thanks....
Gulzar
Raghu-> Two and half reels of Devdaas with two songs recorded, and libaas, ofcourse enquire from the laundry
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
Dil Padosi Hai.Sir what was the reason that there was no song for Kishore in that album.
Gulzar
Zaidi->Wo album ghar walon ke liye thi Padosi ke liye nahin
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
One of your most interesting characters was the role played by Anuradha Patel,in Ijaazat.Was she your first choice ? Was the charcter inspired by Isadora Duncan?
Gulzar
Dikshit-> Not the character, but the death accident was taken from Isadora's real life...
Amit
Bathinda
Namaste gulzar sahaib
Shashi Rao
Eagan
Gulzar-ji - After making many delightful and meaningful movies with the NC Sippy banners, what was the reason for the teaming with Pancham and Dadoo Sippy for JEEVA - a more commercial venture. Was this the last meeting of the old brigade? Since neither Pancham nor you worked for the banner again. (Chal Aaj Ke Din remains the only unliked song for me, in your teaming with Pancham)
Gulzar
Shashi-> NC Sippy was a man of great convictions... I was proud of making my films with him... Pancham and Daddoo both were part of my team, Pancham as MD and Daddo as Assistant..
Shashi Rao
Eagan
Gulzar-ji - Can you tell us your vision for DEVDAS - was this venture comparable with MEERA in terms of research and realism? (Wouldn't Sanjeev Kumar have made a better choice for depicting the tragedy/pathos?)
Gulzar
Shashi-> Unfortunately I dont agree with you.. I was very close to the book.. the charm of SaratChandra's Devdaas is the adolescence of the Devdaas, who never grew out of it... While the two women matured... Dharmendra was certainely a better adolescent romantic lover, which he still retains..
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
Corolarry to Shashi's question. Would you have considered Dharmendra for Sanjeev's role in Namkeen ?
Gulzar
Dikshit->We'll set an enquiry commission...
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
My apologies
Gulzar
Dikshit-> I hope you didn't mind it... Humor is an essential ventilation for healthy living
puneet
jaipur
namaste sir i want to ask a question about a song from the film biwi aur makaan " aa tha jab janam liya tha e hoke mar gaye" what inspire you to write such a funny song
Gulzar
Puneet->Vishwajeet. while shooting I could not recognize him when I entered the sets.. it was only after hearing his voice, I placed him... Ee tha jab dekha tha... aa tha jab pehchana
Madhav
Mumbai
Just wanted you to know before I sign off....I have a ten month old kid(named Rahul after my favourite music director) who does not stop when he starts crying. But just sing "Lakdi ki kaathi" and he forgets his tears and starts clapping his hands. Here is a "thank you" kissie from him to Gulzarnana. Mmmmuahhh! Lol!
Gulzar
Madhav-> He has inherited music with the name.. play Papadwale panga na le to him...
Vinay
 
ha ha.. That reminds me.. We never came to hear the full version of "aapa ki aapa.Di paanii me.n jaa pa.Dii".
Gulzar
Vinay-> Aapa ki aapadi, Paani mein jaa padi aapa ko dhoop mein sukhao, aapa ko istari karaao...
Vinay
 
yahaa.N tak to suni hai, sir. par istarii ke baad kyaa :). ye to puure gaane ke laayk "thought" hai.
Vinay
 
You have aready mentioned about your special fondness for Ghalib and Mir. Among your contemporaries poets (read shaayars), who are the ones you like to read? You mentioned at a place about Ahmed Nadeem Qasmi as well. Anyone else?
Gulzar
Vinay->yes.. Dr. Basheer Badr, Faraaz, Marin Sorescu[the spanish poet] are few of my favourite poets..
raghu
minneapolis
Did you write roles with actors in mind or tried to fit actors into the roles you wrote...sometimes your casting seemed so perfect (aided ofcourse by Sanjeev Kumar's acting many a time)? And to add to that it is surprising you never worked with Amitabh though Hrishida for whom you wrote several times did....any comments on projects planned that never perhaps materialised?
Gulzar
Raghu-> I do the casting always after completing the script.. Somehow Sanjeev had that capability of fitting into any role...

Gulzar-ji - Are you currently planning on directing any movie? Any ideas/stories?
Jehangir
Karachi
when should we expect a film from you?
Gulzar
Hopefully I'll do a film next year...
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
How different it was working with SD Burman from RDB
Gulzar
Dikshit->SD Burman was to take a start and RD to carry on...
kunal
jaipur
how is your experience with ar rahman and vishal bhardwaj
Gulzar
Kunal-> Very Musical
Vinay
 
behad shukriya, sir. itanaa waqt saath gujaarane ke liye. Hope you will keep giving us these good times more often.
Gulzar
[Pavan] What is your thoughts about internet as a medium of communication...
Gulzar
Pavan-> I feel richer, with this chat and this medium, which makes it possible which I could never had done thru letters, but its more complete by reading faces personally.. you need a touch for the relation...
Shashi
Gulzar-ji - since we are out of time - let me thank you for your insights into your associations, movies and its music. I will cherish this chat for years to come. Here's wishing you great health, long life and boundless creativity - we look forward to many movies and literary creations from you. Shashi
Gulzar
Phoolon ki tarah lab kholo sabhi.... Khushboo ki zabaan mein bolo sabhi...
Gulzar
Good bye everybody, It was nice talking to you all...
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
Thank you very much sir phir milenge
Satya
columbus/Mumbai
Bahut Bahut Shukriya, Gulzarji, eventhough I didnt have any great questions, but it was wonderful being in your presence and reading your replies. Bahut shukriya, aasha hei aisa mauka dubaara mile..:)
Shashi
 
Dikshit - no...not phir milenge....but as Pancham would say...'Milte Hain!' ---
rsinha
NJ
Pawan, could you please arrange for the transcript to be posted on the website? Thank you for this session. Shukran Gulzarji. :)
Madhav
Mumbai
Well, then, Gulzarsaab.....here's wishing you all that you want! And praying for the wellbeing of all your near and dear ones....Thanks for a lovely evening....Good night, sir!
Zaidi
Rawalpindi
Thank You Pavan for this wonderful session.The name of this chat should be MAGIC MOMENTS spent with Gulzar Sahib.
Shashi
For some reason - I have lost my name/id in this chat - reminds me - Naam Gum Jaayega...Chehra Yeh Badal Jaayega...Meri Awaaz Hi Pehchan Hai...Gar Yaad Rahe.....Wow...wonderful - thank you, the pleasure was all ours. (And thanks so much Pavan for arranging this chat)
DIKSHIT ARYA
CALCUTTA
Good bye every one
Vinay
 
Thanks very much indeed to Pavan for a great effort to organise the chat. Dixit, Shashi - had a great time. See you later - "milte hai.n". :)

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